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Proof of Racism in the Black Community

Thank you Tiger. Your recent personal life has brought some issues to light. First Tiger does not consider himself black but because he is famous it seems the black community does. This is a fair weather friend however because in light of the recent events in Tigers life the black community seems to be distancing itself from him. There are parodies of songs about him and comments have come out that outright say that if he cheated on his white wife with a black girl that there would hardly have been a stir.

DISHONEST ANSWERS ABOUT INTERACIAL DATING

What more can you say when a race as a whole (94% Sociological Quarterly 2009) says that there is no issue with interracial dating but is one of the least likely races to date outside of their race than other groups. Yes this is referencing the black community not the white.

RASISM

Imagine if you will the shit storm that would be if a white person publicly said “If Bush had a black wife I would not have voted for him.” or “Sure a white man with a black woman makes a difference,” or “There’s just this preservation thing we have among one another. We like to see white only with white.”

Yet with no stir, no storm, no hesitation, “Had Barack had a white wife, I would have thought twice about voting for him,” Johnson Cooper said, a 26-year-old African-American from New York City. Here are a few of his other gems “But at the same time we still see him as a black man with a white woman, and it makes a difference,” “There’s just this preservation thing we have among one another. We like to see each other with each other.”

Yet, only white people can be racist. I think this definitively demonstrates this is simply not true.

YOU JUST GOT TO LOVE IT WHEN WRITERS FORGET WHAT THEY SAY IN THEIR OWN ARTICLE

By JESSE WASHINGTON, AP National Writer Jesse Washington, Ap National Writer – Sun Dec 6, 9:01 am ET He stated in his article “This vexed some blacks, but it hasn’t stopped them from claiming Woods as one of their own. Or from disapproving of his marriage to Elin Nordegren, despite blacks’ historical fight against white racist opponents of mixed marriage.” It would seem to me if it is the blacks that are one of the least likely to date outside of their race that they are the “racist opponents of mixed marriage.”

Unbelievable.

This does not meant that all races do not have to work at their prejudices; all this is saying is that the black community no matter how it protests has to deal with this issue also.

b

READ THE ARTICLE THAT THIS INFORMATION CAME FROM

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6 Responses to “Proof of Racism in the Black Community”

  1. How funny! For one thing the black community has NEVER made an issue of Tiger being “one of their own.” Tiger says he isn’t black and that is that.

    And because YOU think that blacks don’t accept interracial relationships now all of a sudden the black community is racist. Does the fact that SOME white people don’t take a liking to interracial relationships either make them a racist community? Or does it go one way?

    How hypocritical. The minute any black person makes a black blanket statement of “racist” about the white community I am pretty sure you would not like it. But I guess you didn’t make a blanket statement about the black community because you got the word from each and every one of them, right?

    Here is the scoop because it is obvious that you don’t know. Black people don’t look at Tiger Woods and see him as some sort of black figure head. If blacks are so opposed to interracial relationships and turns their backs why have blacks continued to support Tina Turner, Taye Diggs, James Brown, Halle Berry (who isn’t technically full black either), Prince, Venus Williams and the list goes on and on.

    Obviously you didn’t think this through before jumping on the bandwagon. You hear ONE black person mention the fact that THEY didn’t like his interracial relationship and that equates to the ENTIRE black community. WOW is all that can be said. When Tiger professed that he is NOT black HE is the one who separated himself from the black community.

    Thanks.

  2. Biker Bernie,

    Here is a part of the Sociological Quarterly that you may have missed:

    “As further evidence of the comparative unwillingness of African Americans to date outside of their race, I calculated the percentage of each racial group who will only date their own race. Weighted measures indicated that 30 percent of all African Americans are only willing to date African Americans, 8 percent of all Hispanic Americans are only willing to date Hispanic Americans, and 8.7 percent of all Asian Americans are only willing to date Asian Americans. These differences show that African Americans are more likely to stay within their racial group than other racial minorities—indicative of an alienation experienced by African Americans that escapes other people of color. It is also the case that 33.1 percent of all European Americans are only willing to date European Americans. SDO suggests that European Americans would be less willing to date outside their race so that they can maintain their racial advantage, but it offers no explanation for why African Americans would be less willing to date interracially. Thus, while European Americans and African Americans have similar levels of in-group racial dating preferences, it is likely for quite different reasons.”

    I guess this proves that while black people might be racist and date their own, it also demonstrates that white people are even more racist by more than three percentage points. It appears that when you said that black people are one of the races least likely to date outside their race, you left out that white people are even less likely than blacks to date outside their race.

    Also, if we are to assume that black people are racist against Tiger because he is having personal troubles right now, can we also assume that white people are racist against Tiger as well because he is having personal troubles? I mean, as far as Tiger is concerned, he’s just as white as he is black. White people accept him as one of their own. So now that white people are against him, aren’t white people fair weather friends as well? I mean, isn’t Tiger dating and cheating white women behind his white wife’s back? So why are white people turning their nose up at Tiger? There was a SNL parody of Tiger that had a white woman in it. SNL is much more an institution of the white community than it is of the black community. So it is pretty obvious that white people are distancing themselves from Tiger harder than black people.

    And we don’t have to imagine any shit storm from white people saying that they wouldn’t vote for somebody because of the color of their skin. It happens all the time. You have tea baggers and all manners of white conservatives saying that they wouldn’t vote for a lying African. You have people like Rush Limbaugh going on his radio show saying that the only reason Colin Powell endorsed and then voted for Barack Obama was because of the color of his skin. You have white people saying day in and day out that they just can’t accept the fact that we now have a black President of the United States and want to rectify the situation. You have people asking the man for his birth certificate and when he produces it, they dismiss it as a forgery based on nothing but their personal bias to deny the man his American citizenship. What other President has been disrespected so thoroughly? And Barack Obama is half white, so aren’t white people rejecting their own. Aren’t white people doing the same thing you accuse black people of? It seems your entire article is just one big hypocritical assumption after another.

    Peace

  3. theblacksentinel, anytime,

    That is why I believe that open forums are so important.

    But you are the one who is funny. I did say Tiger never considered black. Also it is not me that blacks do not accept interracial relationships the proof was quoted in a study (94% Sociological Quarterly 2009). Read for comprehension. Sorry the link did not show up right but it is there now. Read the article, ( http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091206/ap_on_sp_go_ne/us_tiger_woods_race;_ylt=AgZgRGj1CNT8X9kWucvXeXis0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNuMDRqdjEzBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMDkxMjA2L3VzX3RpZ2VyX3dvb2RzX3JhY2UEY2NvZGUDbW9zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3BvcwM0BHBvcwMxBHB0A2hvbWVfY29rZQRzZWMDeW5faGVhZGxpbmVfbGlzdARzbGsDdGlnZXJzdHJvdWJs ) it is the blacks that are making an issue out of the fact that a “black” man is having an affair with a white woman. Even castration was mentioned. Speak of an over reaction. So it is not my opinion it is an observation.

    You commented and questioned, “And because YOU think that blacks don’t accept interracial relationships now all of a sudden the black community is racist. Does the fact that SOME white people don’t take a liking to interracial relationships either make them a racist community? Or does it go one way?”

    Again, read for comprehension. TO BE CLEAR, my article is entitled “Proof of Racism in the Black Community.” This does not say “all blacks are racist,” “the whole black community is racist,” it does not even say “most of the black community is racist,” it does say that there is racism in the black community. That is all, nothing more, nothing less.

    Furthermore, read for comprehension. I did say, “This does not mean that all races do not have to work at their prejudices; all this is saying is that the black community no matter how it protests has to deal with this issue also.

    The point of my article truly was that black can be racist. Why? Because I have encountered so many people (black and white) and articles that outwardly say that blacks cannot be racist. The rational; because they are black. That is all I was really trying to get across.

    NOTE: if you reply and I see that you did not read for comprehension then I will no longer respond to your comments because if you argue with a fool others will wonder who is the fool. The things that I pointed out here in my comment was clearly stated in my article and should have not needed further explanation for any other reason than someone attempting to put their own slant on what I said in a weak attempt to make me look bad. What I said is all there uninitiated and any attempt to slant what I said in an attempt to make me appear prejudice in what I said is well, silly.

    b

  4. brotherpeacemaker,

    I did miss that part of the article because I read an article which cited that article, thanks for the info.
    Now, I would like you to point out where is it that I said or suggested that whites were not prejudice? I never said that, nor would I ever, everyone is prejudice, that is my point of the article. Too many times I have heard from black and white and many articles that blacks cannot be prejudice because they are black. Nonsense.

    I have an issue with your following statement. “Also, if we are to assume that black people are racist against Tiger because he is having personal troubles right now, can we also assume that white people are racist against Tiger as well because he is having personal troubles? I mean, as far as Tiger is concerned, he’s just as white as he is black. White people accept him as one of their own. So now that white people are against him, aren’t white people fair weather friends as well? I mean, isn’t Tiger dating and cheating white women behind his white wife’s back? So why are white people turning their nose up at Tiger?

    First, the white community has not claimed Tiger as their own. Second, they have not distanced themselves from him because the claimed him and then he became involved in a situation so he was abandoned by the white community. Big difference there bud, you are desperately grasping at straws. It is like you are comparing Apples to dump trucks and attempting to make a point.

    This is a black issue not a white. It seems that blacks go out of their way to grasp at black celebrities even when not black. Blacks are the ones who make issue out of how good or bad a black celebrity is doing and how it reflects on their community. Whites do not care if a white guy falls flat on his face; typically they say he deserved it. I have never heard any white person say, look how he / she is dragging down our whole race. Get real. White people tend to care less if you are black but rather if the person is on their favorite team, representing the US of A in the Olympics, that is makes you ours. Blacks tend to take it a step further and is seems to me anyway that because a person is black and doing well it is as though blacks wish to shut out anyone else from celebrating our common good and interest. This is counterproductive to race relations

    Furthermore look at Obama as an example; he is the one who separated himself from the white community by almost completely ignoring his white half. That is one issue I have with him, not that he is half black rather that he damn near denies his white half. If a person cannot be true to themselves then they will not be true to anyone else.

    Finally do not forget that I did say, ““This does not mean that all races do not have to work at their prejudices; all this is saying is that the black community no matter how it protests has to deal with this issue also.” You are reading with blinders on and remembering only that, which you wish to remember, thus changing the meaning of my article. I blame everyone for racism, but is seems too many that blacks cannot be racist so when this perfect example came up to prove otherwise, I used it.

    BY THE WAY, I am not slamming Tiger, I am defending him. If you read my other articles about him and his wife you will find that I believe that there should be a domestic investigation done and she should be the one investigated for being the primary aggressor. Cheating may be wrong but in our country domestic abuse is a crime and if she attacked him she should go to jail like any man would have for going after his wife. How does that fit into the brush that you are using in an attempt to paint me as racist? I am defending the “black” guy and condemning the “white” woman.

    b

  5. Biker Bernie,

    I read the article and I am back to the same question, where in the article to they mention speaking to the black community? You are taking this article as if somehow the person who wrote it Jesse Washington speaks for all people.

    He doesn’t! So to then start assumptions saying that “First Tiger does not consider himself black but because he is famous it seems the black community does.” And it IS an assumption because YOU have NO first hand knowledge that the black community believes this.

    It is completely obvious from the article that the black community does NOT see him as one of their own or they would have supported him through his debacle. Remember Michael Jordan cheated with a white woman and NOT one joke from the black community.

    Bill Cosby cheated with a white woman and not one comment out of the black community. So what I am saying is that a bit of research would have yielded a more clear picture of this issue. One man claiming that the black community claims Tiger and only because he’s famous. The writer never even added that, so that was your own assumption.

    The writer also said that “On the one hand, Ebonie Johnson Cooper doesn’t care that Tiger Woods’ wife and alleged mistresses are white because Woods is “quote-unquote not really black.” Doesn’t this also show that he isn’t black to black people?

    I am NOT trying to paint you as a racist and never even mentioned the word “racist” in my comment. It seems to be something that is extremely important to you as I noticed you said the same thing to the next comment. I didn’t believe that this was a “you are racist” issue. I thought it was a “you are confused” issue.

    I was merely trying to give you a bit of correction. That even IF some guy from associated press claims that blacks are ONLY distancing themselves from Tiger due to this, doesn’t make it true. Blacks distanced themselves when he started the whole Cablasian thing.

    The question is if blacks are racist because they don’t want to date outside of their race or they don’t support Tiger. And the answer to both are NO. I mean the article also said that “Pew poll showed that 94 percent of blacks say it’s all right for blacks and whites to date.”

    I just don’t like the insinuation that somehow this ONE article by this ONE black man can be taken as straight fact. And thus the black community has a race problem. Yes ALL communities have a race problem. But it isn’t due to this issue nor the dating thing.

  6. Biker Bernie,

    How does that fit into the brush that you are using in an attempt to paint me as racist? I am defending the “black” guy and condemning the “white” woman.

    The brush that I am using to paint you as a racist stems from the title of your article, “Proof of Racism in the Black Community”. You say that you never suggested that whites are not prejudice, but you make the suggestion throughout your article. For example, you never said that whites are prejudice or racist. You did say that blacks are one of the most racist racial groups implying that whites are not culpable of racism. You give statistics about how black people do not date outside their race but never give any correlation to how this compares to the white community. In fact, you imply blacks are the most racist without ever getting any overall picture of perspective.

    But one thing that I must point out is that while blacks are just as prejudice as whites, there is a huge difference between prejudice and racism. Prejudice is the preference of one thing over the other. Racism is a systematic approach to separation that leads to measurable differences in living standards based on nothing more than race. Black people may be prejudice but we don’t discriminate against white people to the point that the standards of living in the white community suffer. On the other hand, this country is built on a history of white people employing their prejudice against black people to cause considerable damage to the black community which has led to a perpetual state of secondary status for black people.

    Now many people will always point to the exceptions in the rule. They point to people like Tiger Woods and Oprah Winfrey and say that if people like this can make it then any black person can. But the big problem with that theory is that not all black people can overcome the stigma of racism that has become the status quo of America. We watch black people being beaten by police and make the assumption that black people deserve it. We see one black person doing something wrong and we make the assumption that all black people are culpable. You yourself condemn the entire black community as turning its back on Tiger Woods because black people ridicule his recent troubles. Would you make the same assumption about the white community because some white people ridicule Tiger Woods?

    Maybe if your article had a little more balance to it, maybe if the title was Blacks Are Just As Unhappy With Tiger As Whites, it wouldn’t look and sound like such an accusing finger of condemnation against the black community. But since you focus only on one piece of the puzzle, the piece that shows black people, and only black people, as some statistical aberration you are more than happy to lead people down the assumption that there is something wrong with the black community.

    Peace


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