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		<title>By: bikerbernie</title>
		<link>http://bikerbernie.wordpress.com/2009/01/11/study-on-racism-is-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-1062</link>
		<dc:creator>bikerbernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patty,

That is a damn shame.  I have had people pull the race card with me and nothing could be further from the truth.  Do not get me wrong &lt;B&gt;&lt;I&gt;all&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/I&gt; of us harbor some prejudices (as much as the media, mixed company, and blacks ignore or deny that this is true), it is human nature, but more importantly is what we do with them and how we handle different situations.  I typically always give everyone a chance but once you have abused my trust I am not coming back for seconds.  As cliché as it sounds I have black friends and my daughter is best friends wit a black girl (my son has a best friend who is black and so does my youngest daughter) not that this is important because my story is with my oldest girls best friend.  Her father wants nothing to to with her, she is a great kid, and she brought up in conversation with my daughter that unlike my daughter who has someone to walk her down the isle she does not have a father to do this for her.  My daughter relayed the story to me and I said that I would to this for her.  I also told my daughter that I would be the father in every respect, that being the thing that this girl did not realize was part of the ceremony that when the dad gives away the daughter he whispers to the groom that he best better take care of his daughter or he will have the dad to answer to . . .

She was so excited that she had to call me and ask me if I was serious.  I am serious as a heart attack.

b</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty,</p>
<p>That is a damn shame.  I have had people pull the race card with me and nothing could be further from the truth.  Do not get me wrong <b><i>all</i></b> of us harbor some prejudices (as much as the media, mixed company, and blacks ignore or deny that this is true), it is human nature, but more importantly is what we do with them and how we handle different situations.  I typically always give everyone a chance but once you have abused my trust I am not coming back for seconds.  As cliché as it sounds I have black friends and my daughter is best friends wit a black girl (my son has a best friend who is black and so does my youngest daughter) not that this is important because my story is with my oldest girls best friend.  Her father wants nothing to to with her, she is a great kid, and she brought up in conversation with my daughter that unlike my daughter who has someone to walk her down the isle she does not have a father to do this for her.  My daughter relayed the story to me and I said that I would to this for her.  I also told my daughter that I would be the father in every respect, that being the thing that this girl did not realize was part of the ceremony that when the dad gives away the daughter he whispers to the groom that he best better take care of his daughter or he will have the dad to answer to . . .</p>
<p>She was so excited that she had to call me and ask me if I was serious.  I am serious as a heart attack.</p>
<p>b</p>
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		<title>By: Patty</title>
		<link>http://bikerbernie.wordpress.com/2009/01/11/study-on-racism-is-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-1057</link>
		<dc:creator>Patty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 02:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, here&#039;s an interesting unintentional study that happened to me just last week:  I was in Kinko&#039;s copy center and was leaving the store and walking past the register when I saw a young man at the cash register looking through the papers he&#039;d just copied and not paying attention to the fact that his wallet was on the counter five feet away.  I stopped momentarily and asked if that was his wallet, and he said that it was.  I then said something like, &quot;You might want to grab it instead of leaving it sitting out there in the open.&quot;  He thanked me, and I kept walking.  

When  I was just getting to my car, a lady inside the store yelled out at me, &quot;That was rude!  That was rude! I was not going to steal his wallet!&quot;

I went back in and talked to her and told her that she was being &quot;silly.&quot;  That&#039;s the only word I could really think of to say at the time.  I then explained that I had not even seen her at the time I noticed the wallet sitting there and also mentioned that my cell phone had been stolen in a very similar circumstance in a copy center when I hadn&#039;t been paying close enough attention.

She seemed to understand that she had wrongfully accused me of accusing her and then said, &quot;Okay, then.&quot;

At that point, I got a little irritated because I felt I was due an apology for being yelled at and wrongly accused of something, and so I sarcastically told her that her apology was accepted.

* Part of me was irritated for being accused of something for which there was no basis in fact. 

* Part of me felt bad for the woman in that she assumed I would think she was a thief.  I don&#039;t know this for sure but am speculating that she felt I was assuming she was a thief because she was black.

* Part of me was irritated when I tried to explain the situation and make ammends after being wrongly accused, and she didn&#039;t apologize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, here&#8217;s an interesting unintentional study that happened to me just last week:  I was in Kinko&#8217;s copy center and was leaving the store and walking past the register when I saw a young man at the cash register looking through the papers he&#8217;d just copied and not paying attention to the fact that his wallet was on the counter five feet away.  I stopped momentarily and asked if that was his wallet, and he said that it was.  I then said something like, &#8220;You might want to grab it instead of leaving it sitting out there in the open.&#8221;  He thanked me, and I kept walking.  </p>
<p>When  I was just getting to my car, a lady inside the store yelled out at me, &#8220;That was rude!  That was rude! I was not going to steal his wallet!&#8221;</p>
<p>I went back in and talked to her and told her that she was being &#8220;silly.&#8221;  That&#8217;s the only word I could really think of to say at the time.  I then explained that I had not even seen her at the time I noticed the wallet sitting there and also mentioned that my cell phone had been stolen in a very similar circumstance in a copy center when I hadn&#8217;t been paying close enough attention.</p>
<p>She seemed to understand that she had wrongfully accused me of accusing her and then said, &#8220;Okay, then.&#8221;</p>
<p>At that point, I got a little irritated because I felt I was due an apology for being yelled at and wrongly accused of something, and so I sarcastically told her that her apology was accepted.</p>
<p>* Part of me was irritated for being accused of something for which there was no basis in fact. </p>
<p>* Part of me felt bad for the woman in that she assumed I would think she was a thief.  I don&#8217;t know this for sure but am speculating that she felt I was assuming she was a thief because she was black.</p>
<p>* Part of me was irritated when I tried to explain the situation and make ammends after being wrongly accused, and she didn&#8217;t apologize.</p>
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		<title>By: Patty</title>
		<link>http://bikerbernie.wordpress.com/2009/01/11/study-on-racism-is-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-1056</link>
		<dc:creator>Patty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 02:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article states: “It’s like these nasty racist comments aren’t having an effect,” said York University psychology professor Kerry Kawakami, the lead author.  “It’s important to remind people that just because a black man has been elected as president doesn’t mean racism is no longer a problem or issue in the States,” she added.

So, Kawakami calls someone who was born to a white woman and raised by a white mother and white grandparents &quot;a black man.&quot;  In my opinion, referring to someone who is widely known to have a white mother and a black father &quot;a black man&quot; puts her in the same category she&#039;s accusing others of being in.  

(If I were to state that I identify with the Ukrainian side of my family more so than the Scottish side of my family, that doesn&#039;t negate the fact that my mother is of Scottish heritage and, therefore, so am I.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article states: “It’s like these nasty racist comments aren’t having an effect,” said York University psychology professor Kerry Kawakami, the lead author.  “It’s important to remind people that just because a black man has been elected as president doesn’t mean racism is no longer a problem or issue in the States,” she added.</p>
<p>So, Kawakami calls someone who was born to a white woman and raised by a white mother and white grandparents &#8220;a black man.&#8221;  In my opinion, referring to someone who is widely known to have a white mother and a black father &#8220;a black man&#8221; puts her in the same category she&#8217;s accusing others of being in.  </p>
<p>(If I were to state that I identify with the Ukrainian side of my family more so than the Scottish side of my family, that doesn&#8217;t negate the fact that my mother is of Scottish heritage and, therefore, so am I.)</p>
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		<title>By: bikerbernie</title>
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		<dc:creator>bikerbernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seven,

Now you sound like an uninformed bleeding heart.  First NO ONE alive today in this country can say they were slaves for hundreds of years.  In fact no one lives for hundreds of years so that entire argument is moot.  I would like to point out that we did not start the slave trade, in fact typically in Africa tribe vs. tribe they would enslave them or assimilate them and the black community has to acknowledge that and point the finger first at themselves then SOME that live here.

I take strong objection having the finger pointed at me because I am only second generation American, my family and I had NOTHING to do with slavery.  Mmmm that is good tobacco.  

Seven, so is there a time limit on this so called slavery issue, I mean since none of these people that are complaining were ever slaves, what exactly is the complaint?  I am Catholic/Christian and we were oppressed, lynched, ghettoized, treated like animals, others don’t think you deserve the right to be treated like a human or to have a house or job enslaved and fed to the lions and tigers so I am just a tad sensitive too and we look alike to boot.  That tobacco keeps tasting better.

There are many words used by others towards European Americans that are just as wrong.  
I like how you skirted my issue though, it is just a word, no one alive today has personally experienced slavery for hundreds of years (nor has anyone), and they have no right at this point in history to leach off of that fact anymore.  Additionally you have not stated whether or not it is OK for someone to be beaten, killed, knifed, gang attacked etc. for using the word nigger.  Furthermore how wrong can it be if blacks themselves use it endearingly?  Perhaps then they should set the example.

As far as the jobs go I have not compassion there either because I have been denied jobs because I am white or male after tying for first on several exams and being passed over for those were 1,500 or more on the test scores.  I am not to be held accountable for the “crimes” of my father or for my family that were not here but I was. I could have been retired by now and spending my time with my children.  Who is going to give me reparations for this?   Now I hope you understand why I am sensitive about these areas.

Also the study does not address racism with the black community and it is only fair to test them in the same way to see if this is a universal problem and not just a white problem.

Racism is perpetrated by every race but it seems that only the white populous are blamed.  I do not want to here that we are the worst offenders either because that is simply not true.

b</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seven,</p>
<p>Now you sound like an uninformed bleeding heart.  First NO ONE alive today in this country can say they were slaves for hundreds of years.  In fact no one lives for hundreds of years so that entire argument is moot.  I would like to point out that we did not start the slave trade, in fact typically in Africa tribe vs. tribe they would enslave them or assimilate them and the black community has to acknowledge that and point the finger first at themselves then SOME that live here.</p>
<p>I take strong objection having the finger pointed at me because I am only second generation American, my family and I had NOTHING to do with slavery.  Mmmm that is good tobacco.  </p>
<p>Seven, so is there a time limit on this so called slavery issue, I mean since none of these people that are complaining were ever slaves, what exactly is the complaint?  I am Catholic/Christian and we were oppressed, lynched, ghettoized, treated like animals, others don’t think you deserve the right to be treated like a human or to have a house or job enslaved and fed to the lions and tigers so I am just a tad sensitive too and we look alike to boot.  That tobacco keeps tasting better.</p>
<p>There are many words used by others towards European Americans that are just as wrong.<br />
I like how you skirted my issue though, it is just a word, no one alive today has personally experienced slavery for hundreds of years (nor has anyone), and they have no right at this point in history to leach off of that fact anymore.  Additionally you have not stated whether or not it is OK for someone to be beaten, killed, knifed, gang attacked etc. for using the word nigger.  Furthermore how wrong can it be if blacks themselves use it endearingly?  Perhaps then they should set the example.</p>
<p>As far as the jobs go I have not compassion there either because I have been denied jobs because I am white or male after tying for first on several exams and being passed over for those were 1,500 or more on the test scores.  I am not to be held accountable for the “crimes” of my father or for my family that were not here but I was. I could have been retired by now and spending my time with my children.  Who is going to give me reparations for this?   Now I hope you understand why I am sensitive about these areas.</p>
<p>Also the study does not address racism with the black community and it is only fair to test them in the same way to see if this is a universal problem and not just a white problem.</p>
<p>Racism is perpetrated by every race but it seems that only the white populous are blamed.  I do not want to here that we are the worst offenders either because that is simply not true.</p>
<p>b</p>
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		<title>By: Seven Star Hand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seven Star Hand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bernie,

Perhaps the only way to even the playing field is for &quot;European-Americans&quot; to be brutally enslaved for centuries, then to be oppressed, lynched, ghettoized, treated like animals, etc., simply because you are white and others don&#039;t think you deserve the right to be treated like a human or to have a house or job, etc., etc. That word was a key tool used to both intimidate and oppress. Then perhaps it might make a little more sense as to why some might be a little touchy about the way they have been treated, and still are, because they look different. 

Besides, both whites and blacks are victims of those who manipulate both to hate each other so we waste time with these brain-dead conflicts while those in Rome and their shadowy cohorts laugh at how stupid the deceived dupes are that keep focusing on each other instead of the true source of the problems. Everyone is now a proxy-slave to money, but some don&#039;t realize it and think that they are somehow special, when in fact, the Vatican stays safe and rich while all struggle. Turn your attention towards those who put everyone into this deceptive trap, because whether white, black, brown, or other, we have all been secretly enslaved through a great deception. Put that in your pipe...   Context is everything...

Peace and Wisdom...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bernie,</p>
<p>Perhaps the only way to even the playing field is for &#8220;European-Americans&#8221; to be brutally enslaved for centuries, then to be oppressed, lynched, ghettoized, treated like animals, etc., simply because you are white and others don&#8217;t think you deserve the right to be treated like a human or to have a house or job, etc., etc. That word was a key tool used to both intimidate and oppress. Then perhaps it might make a little more sense as to why some might be a little touchy about the way they have been treated, and still are, because they look different. </p>
<p>Besides, both whites and blacks are victims of those who manipulate both to hate each other so we waste time with these brain-dead conflicts while those in Rome and their shadowy cohorts laugh at how stupid the deceived dupes are that keep focusing on each other instead of the true source of the problems. Everyone is now a proxy-slave to money, but some don&#8217;t realize it and think that they are somehow special, when in fact, the Vatican stays safe and rich while all struggle. Turn your attention towards those who put everyone into this deceptive trap, because whether white, black, brown, or other, we have all been secretly enslaved through a great deception. Put that in your pipe&#8230;   Context is everything&#8230;</p>
<p>Peace and Wisdom&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator>A week in review 01/11 - 01/17/2009 &#171; Bikerbernie&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Orgadvarl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orgadvarl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are thinking like sukrat, but I think you should cover the other side of the topic in the post too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are thinking like sukrat, but I think you should cover the other side of the topic in the post too&#8230;</p>
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